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What is up at SavaJe ?

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From: TestMan Date:   Thursday, February 22, 2007
Hi all,

SavaJe, the manufacturer of SavaJe OS (an impressive JAVA OS for
handheld device) after burning cash trying to compete with Windows CE is
now "offline" (even though the website is still up).

This seem to be confirmed by a news :
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2032659,00.asp

But no further details can be found on what is the exact status of
SavaJE OS.

With JDK about to GPL getting their sourcecode to the same wagon'd
be a major shock for handheld market (with strong perspectives for
desktop market too).

There has been struggle to build opensource JAVA OS (JOS, JNode, ...)
but SavaJe OS still looks like a good candidate to me.

With opensource and a community, there is even some room for support
service business.

Anybody with clarification on the future of SavaJe OS ? and details on
who is holding the code ?

Rgs,
TM


From: Oliver Wong Date:   Friday, February 23, 2007
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Anybody with clarification on the future of SavaJe OS ? and details on who
is holding the code ?



Have you tried http://www.savaje.com/contact.html ?


From: asjbiotek Date:   Saturday, March 03, 2007
wrote in message:
Hi all,



As far as I know, they're dead. I like them, but never understood the
motivation. JAVAME is firmly entrenched as the dominant app lication
language for mobile, so I never understood how they'd
differentiate themselves from all the other phones.

-asj


From: TestMan Date:   Thursday, March 29, 2007
Oliver Wong a écrit :
Anybody with clarification on the future of SavaJe OS ? and details on who
is holding the code ?
Have you tried http://www.savaje.com/contact.html ?



Yes, no answer til now :(


From: TestMan Date:   Thursday, March 29, 2007
asjbiotek@xxxxxxxxxxx a écrit :
wrote in message:
Hi all,

As far as I know, they're dead. I like them, but never understood the
motivation. JAVAME is firmly entrenched as the dominant application
language for mobile, so I never understood how they'd
differentiate themselves from all the other phones.
-asj



SavaJE OS was JAVA SE (and also ME CDC , AFAIK) this was their big
selling point : you develop a desktop app and run it using webstart
directly on the mobile decices. No "limited" API, just plain standard
JAVA :) Problem was that they were fighting agains Microsoft Windows CE ! You
can not fight agains Microsoft on "regular basis".

Even though they are claimed dead, I have seen no official statement of
that. Is not there a public register website for company in US ?
Something we can check to see a company status (dead, chapter11 or alive) ?

If they are dead, I'd real y like to know who are the IP holders by
now, because with OpenJDK about to arrive, they might've a second
chance to get their money back jumping in the opensource bandwagon ...

Rgs,
TM


From: asjbiotek Date:   Saturday, March 31, 2007
wrote in message:
Even though they are claimed dead, I have seen no official statement of
that. Is not there a public register website for company in US ?
Something we can check to see a company status (dead, chapter11 or alive) ?
If they are dead, I'd realy like to know who are the IP holders by
now, because with OpenJDK about to arrive, they might've a second
chance to get their money back jumping in the opensource bandwagon ...



Uh, no...they got killed because no one ever saw the selling point of
Savaje...they were using CDC when the vast majority of mobile apps are
MIDP/CLDC, so even JAVA developers were leery of it....

in other words, there was no over-riding feature that'd cause
people to switch over to ONE phone brand from using the much more
numerous Symbian, Palm, Linux, and Windows mobile devices.


From: asjbiotek Date:   Saturday, March 31, 2007
wrote in message:
wrote in message:
> Even though they are claimed dead, I have seen no official statement of
> that. Is not there a public register website for company in US ?
> Something we can check to see a company status (dead, chapter11 or alive) ?
> If they are dead, I'd realy like to know who are the IP holders by
> now, because with OpenJDK about to arrive, they might've a second
> chance to get their money back jumping in the opensource bandwagon ...
Uh, no...they got killed because no one ever saw the selling point of
Savaje...they were using CDC when the vast majority of mobile apps are
MIDP/CLDC, so even JAVA developers were leery of it....
in other words, there was no over-riding feature that'd cause
people to switch over to ONE phone brand from using the much more
numerous Symbian, Palm, Linux, and Windows mobile devices.


I did buy a sample phone though, from JAVAONE 2006....looks toy-like
and i'm still wondering what apps to run on it....my real phone is a
nokia 9500 which runs about a bazillion JAVA ME apps, including FTP!


From: asjbiotek Date:   Thursday, April 12, 2007
I was wrong...it looks like Savaje was actually ACQUIRED by Sun:
http://ngphone.com/wendong/?p=323



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