Does Tapestry5 support Portlets specs JSR168 and 286

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From: "Cardenas, Juan Carlos"

Date: Friday, December 28, 2007

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I can not seem to find a reference

1. <programming> An {address}, from the point of view of a
	programming language.  A pointer may be typed, with its {type}
	indicating the type of data to which it points.

	The terms "pointer" and "reference" are generally
	interchangable although particular programming languages often
	differentiate these two in subtle ways.  For example, {Perl}
	always calls them references, never pointers.  Conversely, in
	C, "pointer" is used, although "a reference" is often used to
	denote the concept that a pointer implements.

	{Anthony Hoare} once said:

	Pointers are like jumps, leading wildly from one part of the
	data structure to another.  Their introduction into high-level
	languages has been a step backward from which we may never
	recover.

	[C.A.R.Hoare "Hints on Programming Language Design", 1973,
	Prentice-Hall collection of essays and papers by Tony Hoare].

	2. <operating system> (Or "mouse pointer") An {icon}, usually
	a small arrow, that moves on the screen in response to
	movement of a {pointing device}, typically a {mouse}.  The
	pointer shows the user which object on the screen will be
	selected etc. when a mouse button is clicked.

	(1999-07-07)

in the documentation.

I know Tapestry4 at least covers 168

What are the plans for covering JSR 286 Portlet 2.0 spec?

Carlos

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From: Howard Lewis Ship

Date: Friday, December 28, 2007

Currently there aren't plans to support

After-sale handholding; something many software vendors
	promise but few deliver.  To hackers, most support people are
	useless - because by the time a hacker calls support he or she
	will usually know the software and the relevant manuals better
	than the support people (sadly, this is *not* a joke or
	exaggeration).  A hacker's idea of "support" is a tte--tte
	or exchange of {electronic mail} with the software's designer.

	[{Jargon File}]

	(1995-02-15)

Portlets in T5 for the
initial release. If there is enough interest, it'll be added as a
follow on. It'll be much easier to add to T5 than it was to T4,
since a lot of the ideas in T5 came from T4 and its portlet support.
such as the action request / render request split

<programming> A program like {Unix}'s "split" which breaks an
	input file into parts, usually of a pre-set size, e.g. the
	maximum size that can fit on a {floppy}.  The parts can then
	be assembled with a {dechunker}, which is usually just the
	chunker in a different mode.

	(1998-12-15)

present in T5 (and
in portlets).

On Dec 28, 2007 10:09 AM, Cardenas, Juan Carlos
wrote in message:

I can not seem to find a reference in the documentation.
I know Tapestry4 at least covers 168
What are the plans for covering JSR 286 Portlet 2.0 spec?
Carlos

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	developed in early 1995, based on code and ideas found in the
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From: Michael Lake

Date: Friday, December 28, 2007

would it be completely ridiculous for a T5 component

<programming> An {object} adhering to a {component
	architecture}.

	(1997-11-20)

to house a
portlet? is that at all feasible?

-mike

wrote in message:

Currently there aren't plans to support Portlets in T5 for the
initial release. If there is enough interest, it'll be added as a
follow on. It'll be much easier to add to T5 than it was to T4,
since a lot of the ideas in T5 came from T4 and its portlet support.
such as the action request / render request split present in T5 (and
in portlets).
On Dec 28, 2007 10:09 AM, Cardenas, Juan Carlos
wrote in message:
I can not seem to find a reference in the documentation.

I know Tapestry4 at least covers 168

What are the plans for covering JSR 286 Portlet 2.0 spec?

Carlos

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Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
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From: Howard Lewis Ship

Date: Friday, December 28, 2007

It's really the other way around; a Portlet is defined in terms of a
T5 app

<programming, operating system> (Or "application", "app") A
	complete, self-contained program that performs a specific
	function directly for the user.  This is in contrast to system
	software such as the {operating system} {kernel}, {server}
	processes and libraries which exists to support application
	programs.

	Editors for various kinds of documents, {spreadsheets}, and
	text formatters are common examples of applications.  Network
	applications include clients such as those for {FTP},
	{electronic mail}, {telnet} and {WWW}.

	The term is used fairly loosely, for instance, some might say
	that a client and server together form a distributed
	application, others might argue that editors and compilers
	were not applications but tools for building applications.

	One distinction between an application program and the
	operating system is that applications always run in "user
	mode" (or "non-privileged mode"), while operating systems and
	related utilities may run in "supervisor mode" (or "privileged
	mode").

	The term may also be used to distinguish programs which
	communicate via a {graphical user interface} from those which
	are executed from the {command line}.

	(1994-11-28)

lication, where the application pages are mapped to different
views of the portlet. A portal'd contain many portlets, some T5
applications, some natively implemented.

wrote in message:

would it be completely ridiculous for a T5 component to house a
portlet? is that at all feasible?
-mike
wrote in message:
> Currently there aren't plans to support Portlets in T5 for the
> initial release. If there is enough interest, it'll be added as a
> follow on. It'll be much easier to add to T5 than it was to T4,
> since a lot of the ideas in T5 came from T4 and its portlet support.
> such as the action request / render request split present in T5 (and
> in portlets).
>
> On Dec 28, 2007 10:09 AM, Cardenas, Juan Carlos
wrote in message:
I can not seem to find a reference in the documentation.
I know Tapestry4 at least covers 168
What are the plans for covering JSR 286 Portlet 2.0 spec?
Carlos
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From: Olle Hallin

Date: Friday, December 28, 2007

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Hi,

Consider this as interest in having T5 support portlets. We are just about
starting porting

Translating software to run on a different computer and/or
	{operating system}.

	(1995-01-06)

a largish JSP-hell application to a proper CMS

A {code management} system from {DEC}.

	(1994-12-21)

system

1. The {supervisor} program or {operating system} on a
	computer.

	2. The entire computer system, including input/output devices,
	the {supervisor} program or {operating system} and possibly
	other {software}.

	3. Any large program.

	4. Any method or {algorithm}.

	[{Jargon File}]

plus
Tapestry and portlets, and I'd very much like to see that we can jump
right onto

<mathematics> A function f : A -> B is surjective or onto or a
	surjection if f A = B.  I.e. f can return any value in B.
	This means that its {image} is its {codomain}.

	Only surjections have {right inverses}, f' : B -> A where
	f (f' x) = x since if f were not a surjection there would be
	elements of B for which f' was not defined.

	See also {bijection}, {injection}.

	(1995-05-27)

T5.

To us, portlets are more important that AJAX (since we do not have much of
that in the current

<electronics> The quantity of {charge} per unit time, measured
	in Amperes (Amps, A).  By historical convention, the sign of
	current is positive for currents flowing from positive to
	negative {potential}, but experience indicates that electrons
	are negatively charged and flow in the opposite direction.

	(1995-10-05)

app anyway).

Regards,
Olle Hallin

2007/12/28, Howard Lewis Ship <hlship@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

It's really the other way around; a Portlet is defined in terms of a
T5 application, where the application pages are mapped to different
views of the portlet. A portal'd contain many portlets, some T5
applications, some natively implemented.
wrote in message:
>
>
>'d it be completely ridiculous for a T5 component to house a
> portlet? is that at all feasible?
>
> -mike
>
>
wrote in message:
>
> > Currently there aren't plans to support Portlets in T5 for the
> > initial release. If there is enough interest, it'll be added as a
> > follow on. It'll be much easier to add to T5 than it was to T4,
> > since a lot of the ideas in T5 came from T4 and its portlet support.
> > such as the action request / render request split present in T5 (and
> > in portlets).
> >
> > On Dec 28, 2007 10:09 AM, Cardenas, Juan Carlos
wrote in message:
> I can not seem to find a reference in the documentation.
>
> I know Tapestry4 at least covers 168
>
> What are the plans for covering JSR 286 Portlet 2.0 spec?
>
> Carlos
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> >
> > Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
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From: Emmanuel Sowah

Date: Friday, December 28, 2007

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Howard,

Well, left me alone, I'd say instead of the effort to support Portlets
in T5, spend that in making T5 backward compatible

<jargon> Different systems (e.g., {programs}, {file formats},
	{protocols}, even {programming languages}) that can work
	together or exchange data are said to be compatible.

	See also {backward compatible}, {forward compatible}.

	(1998-01-15)

to T4 and T3. You'd
save many people a lot of misery in migrating.

E.

wrote in message:

It's really the other way around; a Portlet is defined in terms of a
T5 application, where the application pages are mapped to different
views of the portlet. A portal'd contain many portlets, some T5
applications, some natively implemented.
wrote in message:
>
>
>'d it be completely ridiculous for a T5 component to house a
> portlet? is that at all feasible?
>
> -mike
>
>
wrote in message:
>
> > Currently there aren't plans to support Portlets in T5 for the
> > initial release. If there is enough interest, it'll be added as a
> > follow on. It'll be much easier to add to T5 than it was to T4,
> > since a lot of the ideas in T5 came from T4 and its portlet support.
> > such as the action request / render request split present in T5 (and
> > in portlets).
> >
> > On Dec 28, 2007 10:09 AM, Cardenas, Juan Carlos
wrote in message:
> I can not seem to find a reference in the documentation.
>
> I know Tapestry4 at least covers 168
>
> What are the plans for covering JSR 286 Portlet 2.0 spec?
>
> Carlos
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> >
> > Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
> >
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From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dar=EDo_Vasconcelos?="

Date: Friday, December 28, 2007

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Add me to the portlet petition; we're about to start development

The process of analysis, design, coding and testing software.

on a portal
with Liferay and it'd be great to have portlet support in T5.

Regards,

wrote in message:

Howard,
Well, left me alone, I'd say instead of the effort to support Portlets
in T5, spend that in making T5 backward compatible to T4 and T3. You'd
save many people a lot of misery in migrating.
E.
wrote in message:
> It's really the other way around; a Portlet is defined in terms of a
> T5 application, where the application pages are mapped to different
> views of the portlet. A portal'd contain many portlets, some T5
> applications, some natively implemented.
>
wrote in message:
> >
> >
> >'d it be completely ridiculous for a T5 component to house a
> > portlet? is that at all feasible?
> >
> > -mike
> >
> >
wrote in message:
> >
> > > Currently there aren't plans to support Portlets in T5 for the
> > > initial release. If there is enough interest, it'll be added as a
> > > follow on. It'll be much easier to add to T5 than it was to T4,
> > > since a lot of the ideas in T5 came from T4 and its portlet support.
> > > such as the action request / render request split present in T5 (and
> > > in portlets).
> > >
> > > On Dec 28, 2007 10:09 AM, Cardenas, Juan Carlos
wrote in message:
> > I can not seem to find a reference in the documentation.
> >
> > I know Tapestry4 at least covers 168
> >
> > What are the plans for covering JSR 286 Portlet 2.0 spec?
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > >
> > > Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind
> > >
> > >
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